1) When I Fall - Acoustic guitar, with a lower-end voice booming along with it. Sounds nice, but the guitars may overpower the vocals somewhat during the verses. (The chorus comes through a bit stronger.) The best part of this track is the acoustic soloing towards the end, IMHO.
2) Rocketship - An upbeat guitar beat that sort of chugs along. There are lyrics here as well, but they sort of get lost between the guitar and bass. (You have to listen really carefully to hear it.) There's definitely potential here, if somebody were to play around with the levels and separation a little bit. Again - I think the best parts is where the singing stops, and he cuts loose with the guitar. He hits you with this interesting wall of sound. (There might even be a little organ synth at the very end.)
3) Do You Really Want To Be Dylan? - Strong lyrics here, and the vocals come out more here than on other tracks. The acoustic guitars stay in the background, without being too transparent either. (I mean, his voice isn't perfect, but realistically? I don't think many of us RPMers will get far on American Idol. Simon would probably rank me out and leave me crying, curled up in a fetal position.) This is probably the best marriage of the guitar and vocals I've heard so far on Russian Montage. It got me dancing around like a moron. (Luckily, I had my windowshade down.)
4) Jenny Comes Alive? - You can tell he started to hit his stride on Track 3, and it continues on this track. Lyrics that you can understand which paint a picture, framed by some pretty decent acoustic guitar-playing.
5) Cipher - Very quick transitional piece that serves as an outro to #4 and sets the mood for #6.
6) The Last To Know - Acoustic guitar accompanied by minimal synth. The vocals don't grab me quite as much here as on #3 and #4.
7) Cyclic - Interesting instrumental piece, albeit brief. The melody kind of hits you with happy and sad emotional vibes all at once. I'd love to see something like this get developed into a longer work. These bitty tracks could be seeds to something great.
8) Unconcerned - Again, this is just a nice instrumental piece. The acoustic guitar and mellow synths play off each other very well, and then the song ends before it overstays its welcome.
9) Return From The Sea - The vocals dominate in this brief track, with a basic strum to drive them along. I'm starting to think he would gain from collaborating with another singer. He has decent lyrical ideas - it's just a matter of finding the right voice for them.
10) This Song Can't Save Your Soul - Slower electric guitar track, plodding along with sung verses. It sounds like it could use some drums just to help add structure to it.
11) White Flag - Brief acoustic guitar interlude. I think he's onto something with this sort of thing.
12) Be A Man About It - Back to more of an electronic guitar groove. Sounds influenced by Nazareth and KISS - and maybe a little Village People..(Please don't crucify me for saying that - I mean it in a good way, I swear!) The tail end of this track has some pretty decent electric guitar soloing.
13) Step Outside - Slower-paced track, driven along by verses. The vocals at the beginning of the track start a little soft - you have to listen carefully to hear what's being said. The chorus is slightly better in that you can here it. I get a little bit of a Time After Time by Cindy Lauper feeling from this one.
Overall, I think the strongest tracks are where he just disregards adding vocals, and works on coming up with an interesting acoustic melody. The vocal tracks are a mixed bag. Of the vocal tracks, I think #3 or #4 are where they're the best. You can tell he's a really good lyricist - it's just a matter of finding a voice that really bring the lyrics to life.
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Enter: The Anthropocene Epoch A space odyssey, a very complex peice with flow but without a discernable beat. If you ever imagined computers and robots at a social function, this is what it might sound like.
So Dark the Con of Man... Not really a very dark peice of music, though. Admittedly, this peice was a bit confusing. I'm not sure where this tune was heading, but I found myself chasing behind like trying I was to catch a bus that just left without me.
One Planet I like the timing on this one. Some of the low end guitar mimics the sound of tribal dances...american indian. Might have been cool to add some chanting on this.
Conspiracy theory # 9/11 Simple but effective bassline, straight ahead drums, guitar provide the majority detail. This song would be the planning stage of the conspiracy, and not the execution.
One to grow on: You have a very unique sound, but I think you will benefit from incorporating things that are familiar to your audience. You gravitate toward the tribal and global sound, so use the instruments of thier world. Sitar, pan flute, talking drum, and others can add some spice. It won't take but a pinch.
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Re:Critique thread...want opinions on your music? - 2008/04/01 05:43Lunarsight -- thank you for taking the time to listen and critique. I think you definitely hit upon some of the strengths and flaws in the record - particularly with the vocals and the fact that I'm a little more comfortable getting melodic with a guitar than with my voice.
One small thing though -- where did you get the track order? What you have is mostly correct, except that "Cyclic" and "When I Fall" should be switched -- the album is meant to start with "Cyclic" as a somewhat spacey instrumental, leading into "Rocketship," and then have short instrumentals breaking things up every couple of songs. Just curious b/c I'd like to fix that if I can - The songs are in order on my site, but they may be screwy here in the RPM jukebox? I don't think it affected your opinion of the songs, although it may have seemed weird to have two short instrumentals next to each other.
I really appreciate this. It's good feedback. BTW -- it's funny that you mention the Village People re: "Be a Man About It" -- there's some intentional humor in the lyrics (which may be lost on anyone but me) and the reference to the VP fits them very well
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Re:Critique thread...want opinions on your music? - 2008/04/01 11:15the16points wrote: Lunarsight -- thank you for taking the time to listen and critique. I think you definitely hit upon some of the strengths and flaws in the record - particularly with the vocals and the fact that I'm a little more comfortable getting melodic with a guitar than with my voice.
One small thing though -- where did you get the track order? What you have is mostly correct, except that "Cyclic" and "When I Fall" should be switched -- the album is meant to start with "Cyclic" as a somewhat spacey instrumental, leading into "Rocketship," and then have short instrumentals breaking things up every couple of songs. Just curious b/c I'd like to fix that if I can - The songs are in order on my site, but they may be screwy here in the RPM jukebox? I don't think it affected your opinion of the songs, although it may have seemed weird to have two short instrumentals next to each other.
I really appreciate this. It's good feedback. BTW -- it's funny that you mention the Village People re: "Be a Man About It" -- there's some intentional humor in the lyrics (which may be lost on anyone but me) and the reference to the VP fits them very well
Yeah, that was how it appeared on the RPM jukebox.. Although, it looks like it's been switched now, so I'm assuming you must have fixed it..
(For the record, the two short instrumentals next to each worked well, even if it was an unintended side effect of the jukebox..)
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OK, so I just checked it out. If you type in my band name, what first appears is the songs in correct order. If you click on the "Album" header to sort the songs, then those two songs get switched with each other. But when I look at my Jukebox account, the songs are in the correct order (and are also numbered) - so I know that the database info is correct.
This may be happening to others as well. I'll shoot someone an email about it. For others reviewing albums from the Jukebox, you may want to double-check the artist's profile page for the song order. Again - not such a big deal for my album, but I know that track order is very important for some of the albums here.
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Re:Critique thread...want opinions on your music? - 2008/04/01 19:48Wow man, thanks for the excellent review!! Lyndell, you definitely get where I am going to and coming from, and I am honored to have gathered your respect and attention.
I just wrote a long response that was lost because my login timed out...has this happened to anyone else? Making it hard to write!
I am just cutting to the chase now, i'll try to resolve this problem (please help anyone) and get to writing soon....
Tangmo, I fully intend to honor the "rules of the thread" (pending I can type fast enough), so don't worry ; )
I almost missed my review being fully immersed in the jukbox since fri...
i have been rockin out to Baby's First Ride and will get to the review as soon as I can.
I also will write a better review response later...
thanks again for listening! -William (aka Zumatar)
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Perhaps it's worth qualifying this review by contrasting it with 16 Points' excellent piece a few pages ago. I am familiar with some bands SST signed - Husker Du in particular - and founder Greg Ginn's Black Flag, but apart from Bob Mould's crew, not intimately so. Having read t16p's review, I might come away from 'In The Thick Of It' inspired to do some digging into the past...In that sense, I come to it with relatively fresh ears.
However, disregarding any influences I am singularly untutored in recognising, this album had more than enough to pique my interest in it as a curiously unique collection of musical sketches. Despite my initial reservations about the 'lo-fi' tag, I came to hugely enjoy the album. Just to clarify, I consider lo-fi to be another production choice among many (and one I use a fair amount), as the pace of technological evolution and it's relative affordability(plus the availability of pirated software) has rendered economic circumstances less relevant than ever in determining the quality of a recording. In that sense, lo-fi, to me, can often be used as a smokescreen for lazy performances and songwriting.But enough of the treatise - 11.34 reveals himself early on to be a highly capable and creative guitarist, and more importantly as a solo musician, able to cook up some excellent interplay between the various instruments on 'The Power of Incompleteness' and 'Energy Weapon Test Over Guilderland 1/8/08 4:24PM'
The most immediately accessible tracks have been shoved upfront in the album, though 'Raggedy Sam Droggity's initial 20 seconds sound disappointingly ordinary, until the meandering vocal hoves into view. Less conversational than an internal monologue, it forces the listener to actively involve themselves, and suddenly, the tense build-up into the initial ramshackle riff (and subsequent vocal hook) makes all the sense in the world. 'Ratter' slows the pace down, but like 'Raggedy...' before it, excludes the jagged sonic edges of later tracks, preferring a fluid entwining of propulsive bass and a nimble guitar riff to drive the song. An oblique lyric leads into a beautiful, artifical harmonic-lead middle 8, before coming back in to round off the sound with a gang chant. 'Fenced In' completes the opening trilogy, mainly hinging on angular riffs and spoken word rhetoric, it wrongfoots the listener by opening with a distinctly MIDI beat that sounds for all the world like C+C Music Factory are about to jump in...
And now to possibly my favourite groove on the album. Title track, 'In The Thick Of It's car-crash mix of mandolin, hums, and recorders sound like the kind of engaging goofiness Beck used to be able to make, but can't anymore. Rounded off by another spoken-word lyric, it feels slightly anticlimatic, but the seeds of something extraordinary are in there.
As a kind of barrier of entry to the deeper, darker recesses of the album to come, 'Human Landfill' couldn't be more foreboding, which is a shame, as at 41 seconds, it serves as little more than a distraction, as opposed to the hulking noise fest it could've been. 'Serpentine', and 'We are Friends, Friends Stick Together' follow, telling juxtaposed tales of lust and friendship, respectively;'your skin is a map/a trip and a trap', and 'we are friends/friends stick together', uneasy bedfellows at the best of times.
By this point in the album, the lyrical ingenuity becomes yet more apparent - 'Steady Diet of Footprints's thrashing psychosis leaves no room for misunderstanding of intent; 'I am the distant/the sound of the lost/I am the victim/decaying in frost...I am living on a Steady Diet of Footprints'. A startling assault of the senses, it finishes as quickly as it starts, seguing into 'Westiclivity Accent's hyperactive D-beat, and finally collapsing into 'The Wall Within Me's shambling fuzz, and it's closing wail of 'I see, I feel, I hear all'. As far as the album format's propensity to group duller material in its mid portion, it couldn't be more different.
The unmistakeable sound of DI-ed guitars - which, incidentally, I love - is an integral part of the sound of the record, and 'The Power of Incompleteness' is no exception. Entirely instrumental, guitar figures reminscent of early-90s grunge glide over distorted keyboard drums, and while a little overlong at 8 minutes plus, it once again makes a feature of the interplay between bass and guitar at key points.
This is probably indicative of the fact that many of the bands I listen to have similar influences to _11.34, but 'Collections' robotic grind reminds me of Queens of the Stone Age' more angular moments. Its mentions of nanotechnology and Moore's Law recalls the vintage paranoia of Ian McKaye, as does'Energy Weapon..'lyrical bent, with its proclaimations of 'I think we're in the clear' carrying a whiff of doomed euphoria. 'Winning the loudness war' is also a choice lyric. 'Svalbard Nook's bitesize solo guitar rounds off the album, a chance to catch breath after 'Energy Weapon's blitzkrieg.
All in all, 'In The Thick of It' is a rather ace find. I might not get it in quite the same way as The 16 Points(and that's not supposed to be a slight, I might add), but I most definitely get it. More please!
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Re:Critique thread...want opinions on your music? - 2008/04/03 07:41Honesty needed! No waiting! Got 5 tracks on Virb. I suppose I could get more up there, but I already know what the others need. Well, besides a new singer and better guitar player.
I have gotten some positive emails and mucho gracias to all who have been out to the site to listen OR may have listened on the jukebox. I know its like that "kid in a candy store" feeling with so much music online, so I'm circling waiting my turn. I'm looking to polish up some track into a finish product by the end of April.
Baby's First Ride Lyndell
PS If you like, I can forward a copy of the finished CD once done in May.
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I keep losing my posts by being logged out as I am writing (help please!!) so this will be like asong at atime or something...
First off Riviera is a real soilid album; playing, production and songwriting--absolutely no need for a new guitarist or singer!!
One of my friends drove a Riviera in highschool, so I am familiar with the feel, and this music definitely has the vibe of crusin the Riviera, bumpin and groovin in it's own way and Lyndell's lyrics tend to hit on this sense of independence--I personally like your voice alot...but more on that later.
The Bachelor: Killer "modern" rock feel, with a slammin but groovin' beat, hardened up by nice fuzz guitar (all rock fuzz too, no metal here) I like the breaks in the beat, using great sense of song to blend the "modern" electro-drum sound with real rock elemetns...I really feel like I'm crusin the Riviera on this one, the beat lumbers on like a cruiser, and the lyrics are all about self-determination---like aman not defined by his surrounding and enjoying the ride..and like he says get out of the way if you can't let him do his thing. I wouldn't change much here. mix is great too...can get loud and hold on to the sound, very well balanced.
I'm going to post this for fera of deletion...next song in amin.
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Re:Critique thread...want opinions on your music? - 2008/04/03 18:10hey zumatar...why don't you write in microsoft word and then paste into here? its probably just timing out cause its open too long. this would fix it!
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I keep losing my posts by being logged out as I am writing (help please!!) so this will be like asong at atime or something...
... I'm going to post this for fera of deletion...next song in amin.
It's just how the system works, you get timed out after awhile.
Your best bet is to do what I did, and write your review in Word or Notepad, then cut and paste into your post.
EDIT - Night Driving beat me to it!
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Re:Critique thread...want opinions on your music? - 2008/04/03 18:26Ok I'm not to good with computers, so let me try this from text editor on my old mac...ok that worked..I feel so techno-savvy! ; ) thanks guys! ( I knew there was a secret)
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DUKE is a star on this album...of course it's a cover, but this treatment has SOUL and not in the way that the original has, but heart felt Lyndell SOULPOWER.... the vocals on this track are outstanding (IMO) ...it just feels like you are singing right in the ears of the listener (...feels as though this was either recorded for someone special or to drop some honey in all the lady listeners' ears) Rarely do I hear anyone sing in such a personal and raw way...completely refreshing...the nakedness of the chourusey bass and simple drums with the singing really completes the feeling of intimacy...sweet mix and killer production. No doubt Lyndell is pimpin in his "dukedom".
MUCH TOO FAST picks things right up, scooping you up in the ride, not sure how the riviera can go 200 mph, but it's "highly modified"....the drums and funky, slappy bass line are nice, feeling like hip-hop and funk, but in a modern way...the fx are really cool here with nice stereo spread and plenty of nuanced modulation but the break is the best with another stellar vocal, ...so much emotion you, feel his speed induced blindness--complete with the sensation of not moving while you are blasting down the road ...you know, reality subverts and time slows (relativity for all you Einstein fans)...love that feeling, adds great emotion to this pumpin track. the mix here gives you the sense of floating with Lyndell, caught up in his relativity; this is what mixing is all about.
BASSED is one of my personal favs...this trippy bass line and soaring guitar lead weave a killer space-groove...but this is my style....the phaser sound adds a nice dimensional feel...and the breaks from the acid-tinged drumloops enhance their freakiness and give the guitar lead plenty of space...which of course I love, and this isn't just random riffs or formula scales, it's expressive guitar speaking; and I like the guitar tone as well, fuzzy but with plenty of urgency and spacious reverb--well chosen for the vibes of the track.
it's back to groove and hip-hop with PARK, the wah-wah guitar evokes old funk vibes and the drums say hip-hop in a rock format, again refreshing. Lyrics are tight as well, freedom is a theme for this album, and these say it well...trippy synth sounds and horns accentuate nicely in places... and again very soulful guitar playing (I love stuff like this) ...more guitar speaking, this time with the vocal melody following....very nice production choices here, nice mix of styles without sounding like that (if you know what I mean)
CELEBRITY is the dancehall single. killer chourusey bass w/fx holds the groove with tasteful dancehall drums...ready for the DJ with space for remix and a solid beat to work with, esp with great breaks and an excellent mix... I can see the party "jumpin' around all night" on this beat...gotta get the booties shakin!
HOUSE JUMP is the most pop- influenced song departing from the space style to give a rock crooning about this ills of social climbin' ladies of vainity (bitches). the solid bass line and good song writing give this track a big sound (radio-friendly) and again the vocals I like, giving the song a real and emotional feel, with our singer solid as a rock in the midst of the BS of life...I'm sure many folks will relate.
THAT FOOL is the best track though, Willie Weeks soul-groove bass line with great B3 keys set up a VERY solid groove, and no doubt this song is, to me, where the lyrics shine....I want to talk about them, but you should listen...I'll just wreck it up--theme I'll say is One Love (which I'm all about)...but the thoughts are Lyndell--check it out. ...and the singing is just as soulful (Lyndell, ain't anyone else with your voice--I say use it) This song should get picked to be played on NPR second stage (hint hint)...
NIGHT LIFE takes things way into the rock territory with a cathartic rant about the wildlife "...hotel california is a real place..." I'm not talking screamo, vocals are still smooth, but heading distraught in places, lending an out of control feeling. Masterful use of the drum machine lends a feel of real drums, which helps bring out the rock-n-roll sound.
JOHNNY JACK moves back to the trippy dub-style with a hooky asian-style instrument riff, this gives the track a groovy melodic feel with asian-infulenced world beat sense...I can see glow ring trails from the spinning dancers at the club..hands weavin'...no words needed--everyone's dancin' and trippin'...very good choice for ending the album. Little touches like well placed synth effects and echo, dub the track well and enhance trancey feel...and again the mix is right on.
If you couldn't tell by now, Lyndell is a studio pro. (actually he is, check out his virb page..... www.virb.com/bfr) recording and production are top-notch throughout this album, with real strong bass sounds and grooves holding tight to creative drum programming, and not every song here is a compositional song either, songs like Bassed sound like jams, but with a clear musical sense and direction--IMO very cool. And as an 'album' Riviera covers alot of ground, but the production choices weave it all into a good flow...definitely a fun listen while cruisin in your ride.
stuff to grow on: not much to say here, except personally I like the spacey and dubby stuff, esp with guitar, best; so I can only recommend you do more of that, and maybe link with some other cats and create a band* around your sound, which is, like I said before, refreshing. Otherwise keep rockin' it.
(*you should continue to sing though)
-William (aka Zumatar)
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Re:Critique thread...want opinions on your music? - 2008/04/04 09:24Thanks for the reveiw. Much more positive than I was expecting. That box with the unmarked bills you requested just left with the FedEx guy.
To your point, the mixes are virb are more of what I want and less patchwork like I sent in to the challenge.
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I've been listening to your album for the past couple of days... um, "challenging" would be a nice way of putting it -- but I hope to write up something for you this weekend...
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I've been listening to your album for the past couple of days... um, "challenging" would be a nice way of putting it -- but I hope to write up something for you this weekend...
I can live with "challenging"..
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I've been listening to your album for the past couple of days... um, "challenging" would be a nice way of putting it -- but I hope to write up something for you this weekend...
I can live with "challenging".. <br><br>Post edited by: Lunarsight, at: 2008/04/04 15:49
T16P is correct, it is challenging, but that's part of the reason I'm finding that i rather like it...'MBOAM pt1' is rattling around my brain right now.
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Re:Critique thread...want opinions on your music? - 2008/04/04 16:41Lunarsight was nice enough to give me a critique of my album in my feedback post today, but feel free to all have at it if you like. I can take it!
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Re:Critique thread...want opinions on your music? - 2008/04/04 16:58Yeah, me too - I did a review of _11.34's 'In The Thick Of It' a few pages ago, so anyone who feel like they want to take it on, I go under the name of 'Piecey' on the Jukebox...
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Re:Critique thread...want opinions on your music? - 2008/04/04 18:58mr_glide wrote: Yeah, me too - I did a review of _11.34's 'In The Thick Of It' a few pages ago, so anyone who feel like they want to take it on, I go under the name of 'Piecey' on the Jukebox...
Best I can tell, Mr. Glide is up next. If you've left a review and haven't recieved one, chime in again--this thread has gotten a little clumsy.
If you want a review, leave one for someone who's left one--Mr. Glide is 100% for sure up for one.
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i'm probably least of all qualified to review an album of electronica, or so I thought, the first toon starts at 100 mph and never lets off, and i'm thinking, oh no, i'm screwed, but after a complete listen of this rather enjoyable album, I realized that pearcy merely uses the 8 bit electronic beats, synths and noises as a painter uses different brush shapes, sponges, etc to create the various textures of a large and incredibly WIDE painting. maybe a mural if you will on the side of a moving freight train. a few wide panned notes to myself suggest that this music would make awesome movie music, some of the moods are ripe and i've heard much worse. the second track was especially gorgeous movie soundtrack music. i also thought the few first songs that the random vox distracted me from what i thought was going on, but then, maybe i'm not sure what was going on. the 8 bit funk of track 6 was very rousing, oh wait, track 4 drickle, very nice, i think top 3 songs on the LP for me, the regae song, track 7, well i think regae should die forever, but what the hell do i know, again, back to me, and then track 8 the break down in this tune was a little distracting, track9 which was a gtr rock song reminded me of pink floyd, and finally vox on a tune that i adore, very well done here, love the voice and mood on this one, the beatbox/blips song, track 10, oh my track 11, slosh, i adore, reminded me of love and rockets which i LOVE to deathdeathdeath, the annoying breathing song, which took a while to get going, love the beat once it kicks in 5 points even better, once the vox kicks in, this song soars, the rap song, no no no, and track 15, which again takes all day and a month to get going actually quiet amazing somewhere in there.
i'm not sure how the songs where put together, and i'm not sure that it works 100 % of the time, and i might cut 1 or 2 tracks off this very LONG LP, but when it works, it's fucking brilliant.
track stand outs for me 2, 4, 11
angie fights crime.
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Re:Critique thread...want opinions on your music? - 2008/04/04 21:24Hiya, cheers for the review - seems like it's based on first reactions, which is as it should be. Yeah, it's fair to say it's a very mixed bag. Kind of fun to not overthink things too much, though
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Re:Critique thread...want opinions on your music? - 2008/04/04 22:22first reactions not-withstanding, i will be re-listening to some of those tracks long after. much with any full length album, i think there will be things you like and things you dont like. i found over-all more things i like over those i didn't. and over-all my taste does not tend towards music like this, so i think it's successful. i love yer voice by the way, wish you had sung my album.
cheers!
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If not, multiple reviews of the same album are allowed. Feel free to tackle Lunarsight's album while I try to get my head around it
Or, if everyone who has posted a review has gotten a review, then I think you're free to review any of the albums that were submitted this year. Otherwise this thread is going to come to a grinding halt...
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i like how you made it atmospheric. the way the sounds come in, gave it a serene and calming feel. you defintely hit the mood of the song on the head. i felt as if i could feel the breeze coming of the shore line. the melody from the guitar worked very well in this.
nicely done!
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