Trumpet Marine
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Production - 2007/01/16 19:59
Just curious what kind of production thoughts various people have around here for a 28-day album? I personally don't plan to scale my production ideas back but I also know that sometimes the perfect idea for what track is missing comes into your head weeks after recording it originally. Often the demo process lets you work out the ideas and get an idea of the production you want, but in this compressed time frame that seems inefficient. What approach do you plan to take to production?
Ryan
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Jon Nolan!
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Re:Production - 2007/01/17 08:59
half the fun for me this year is going to be going over the top! at least that's the plan. i'm thinking i'm going to try something completely different from what i usually do. yeah, it's true that sometimes the perfect addition to a tune comes after you think on it for a bit. that's been my experience too! the opposite has been true for me too though.
mainly i just want to screw around over some looped beats until i find a sound or sounds that inspire me. then, i'll build it into a song.
but....ask me again on feb 27th. he hee heee.
what kind of stuff are you planning ryan? i can't wait to hear what everybody comes up with!
j-no
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Trumpet Marine
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Re:Production - 2007/01/17 09:25
Well, initially I was planning on just squirreling up in my basement studio with a healthy supply of food and writing and recording my brains out solo, using any and all sounds that I could find or make. Last night, however, I had a brainstorm to form a band with some of the people I know for the express purpose of recording this album. I needed a name for it and I found it on the calender. I have an old English calender with a "word of the day" and the word for February 1st is "Trumpet Marine" (an ancient, fairly obscure stringed instrument), so that's the name of the proposed collective. Today I'm going to find out how many of them are on board for it. I expect we'll have a full sound, harmonies, piano, Mellotron, analog synths, drums, miscellaneous percussion, acoustic and electric guitars, maybe some found sound loops, kazoo... whatever happens.
This is just the excuse I needed to bring something like this together, so thanks!
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Dick1
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Re:Production - 2007/01/17 12:24
Last year we had no choice but to record everything live, one wave file. It continues to be one of my favorite recordings we've ever done.
We're planning to record it the album live again without overdubs but hopefully we can mix individual tracks. That would be great. We're a band that plays out live all the time. It's what we've been doing around here for 7 years. We might as well try and capture it.
I've been recording everything lo-fi lately with my iPod microphone and I love the intimacy of the recordings (I don't know about my voice, but the recordings are fun). I've also been listening to a lot of Daniel Johnston, he has literally thousands of home recording from the eighties. Some of them couldn't be any sweeter and if they were done up with a lot of production they would most certainly lose the sincerity that they now have.
Everyone's different I guess. I gave a listen (or at least a chance) to every submission on the Jukebox last year. I would have to say that the best ones that I heard were of low production quality with good songs and performances. The ones with the highest quality recordings often sounded contrived or like they were taking themselves far too seriously (personaly, I think the more ego one shows on recordings with solos, over singing, etc. the more they sound like shit). The only real high quality recording I heard that I thought was amazing was Chris O'Neal.
Well, enough about that. Good luck in your decisions! I can't wait to start!
-Dick
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Gary Fox
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Re:Production - 2007/01/17 14:00
Hey Jon,
If you like loops, check out the Drummers Of Motown loop CD. Some great grooves.
The address is
www.powerfx.com
I also have a lot of drum loops from Smart Loops.
Cheers,
Gary
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Floppy Jalopy
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Re:Production - 2007/01/17 16:59
I haven't been a performing musician for quite a few years. And while I have plenty of great (read: LAME) excuses for that, I was excited to do RPM last year. As with everyone I quickly realized I was in deep. I planned on doing the whole thing myself, write record mix, play.... and excpet for a couple of songs where I asked some talented friends to add a track, I did it all solo. But the problem with that album, was I could not play any of the songs out Live.
So, my grand delusion this year is that I will do an album of songs I can perform live solo. No Over DUbs, and extra tracks, stripped down just like I did in on the old tape recorders back in the day. I'm planning on writing and recording for the first two -three weeks, and mixing down the last week, but, I'll probably be bawling like a baby 3 days into it just like last year.
Well, if it doesn't kill you, it makes you stronger , right?
Post edited by: Floppy Jalopy, at: 2007/01/17 16:00
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Re:Production - 2007/01/18 00:24
Pick/write all the songs first. All basic tracks (drum, scratch guitar, scratch vocal, bass) next (on all songs). Then, return to the songs variously, parachute into different songs on different days and add things/redo scratch things/tie things together. Final week/10 days: Mixing, final edits.
The point is to have a bunch of songs "opened up" at once, with ample time in the middle of the unfortunately short month to cogitate/ruminate. Then, time at the end to draw together all the loose ends and achieve continuity.
This instead of attempting to fully finish one song before starting on the next. One month, especially February, especially in a non-leap year like 2007, is not sufficient time to afford me such luxury.
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